Feb 13, 2023
This week, the Int-HER-rupt podcast brings you a conversation
between our host Linda Yates and women’s leadership expert Helen
Appleby. They discuss some of the issues that face women in
business, and how to find a role model or mentor who can guide you
along your personal journey. Appleby has worked in six different
countries, led a billion-dollar company, and is now an executive
coach, author, and podcaster, sharing her journey with women all
over the world.. Take a listen, and check our resources to connect
with her - she just might be the role model you’re looking
She has worked for and been in leadership roles in several major
businesses, including GlaxoSmithKline, where she led the $1 billion
Respiratory Health business in Consumer
She was performing well and attending courses to improve her
skills, and began to notice that the challenges that women face in
the industry are often different from the ones men
Her book, The Unwritten Rules of Women’s Leadership, helps
women to navigate their careers and meet their own
definitions for success. She also now has a podcast, which
continues the discussion.
She is now an Executive Coach and Womens’ Leadership Trainer,
helping women step into their power.
Superhero, Role Model, or Mentor?
A role model is someone who can be quite distant
from you, but who has achieved some of the same goals you have. You
can learn from them by reading their work, listening to interviews,
A mentor is someone who is two steps ahead of you
in your goals. Ideally, you can speak to them personally and ask
them questions. This is someone you learn from, who is helping you
Yates and Appleby differentiate this from a
superhero - this is someone who is so far ahead of
you, the goals seem unattainable. It’s not helpful if the person
you look up to is on a pedestal - role models and mentors should be
How do you find a role model or mentor?
Get clear about what you want in your
Choose 3 ways you want to grow and develop.
Figure out who is two steps ahead of you on the
Find people who have done what you want to do, and try reaching out
to them and asking them questions. Whether it’s a goal or a skill -
find someone who has been there, and reach out to see if they’d be
willing to meet with you.
It doesn’t need to be someone who has accomplished it
Sometimes people who are much further along the journey can have a
tough time mentoring because they forget what it’s like to be in
your position. Talk to someone who can relate to you.
“On our own, we can figure stuff out… but if you do it by
yourself, you can tend to stumble through. Having mentors, which
are a bit closer than role models, can be a career accelerator.” -
Check out the episode, where Yates and Appleby go into more depth
about why role models are so important, what to do if your role
model disappoints you, and what to do if you get
Helen’s book, The
Unwritten Rules of Women’s Leadership,
is available on Amazon. Check out her
of the same name and so much more at her website,
You can also reach out to her on
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and let her know how this episode relates to you. This podcast is
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