Today’s episode of Int-HER-rupt features a robust discussion
with guest Joanna Chanis. As an author and professional mentor, she
helps women and corporate teams through challenging experiences.
After being diagnosed with cancer in 2019, she learned how to
be grateful for the positives in her life to
accept the negatives she cannot change.
On the outside, Joanna had a perfect
- And she worked hard to make it look that way. But she was
actually under tremendous stress between her career and personal
life, going through three traumatic experiences in just nine
- Her cancer diagnosis forced Joanna to put herself first.
- She considered herself someone who practices gratitude. But
after her diagnosis, she realized she said the words and talked
about it but was in a state of nonacceptance.
- Because she had to accept something she didn’t want to accept,
she let that manifest acceptance for everything else in her
- She learned how to practice gratitude and live a life that was
- It was authentic. And she could make so much more good happen.
And she was able because she had surrendered and gotten to a place
What is authentic gratitude to Joanna?
- It started when she noticed all the conditional gratitude on
social media. She was saying she was grateful (but didn’t
really feel grateful.)
- We’re conditioned to express gratitude as a formality, even if
we don’t feel it.
- So what is authentic gratitude? It’s a feeling you have when
you’re genuinely grateful and accept what is.
- That doesn’t mean you’ll like everything. But you have to
accept it to move through the circumstances.
- Because of this, Joanna’s life improved. She had better
self-esteem, better relationships, and better peace of mind.
An exercise to practice shifting your
- When helping a friend, client, or corporate group, Joanna
applies it to the little things.
- Don’t wait for a disaster to change your mentality. Instead,
implement it throughout your day as practice, so you’re ready for a
more significant situation.
- Imagine traffic. If you’re annoyed that you’re stuck, shift
your perspective. Accept that you’re in traffic and it’s
- But search for something that because you’re in traffic, you’re
grateful. (Quiet time without kids. Time to finish an audiobook.
You’re in a heated car outside of the cold. )
- Find something in the moment you wouldn’t be able to do if you
weren’t having that circumstance.
- You’re not going to get out of the traffic. But it won’t be as
What would she say to people to have resilience and
stamina in the wake of covid?
- Everyone is resilient. But the key is to learn healthy
- There has never been a more critical time to practice this
methodology. We have to accept where we are.
- With the fluctuations of COVID and the variants, nobody knows
what will happen next.
- Life is a marathon, not a sprint. And we’re all going through
the same challenge in COVID.
- Accept that life will never be the same. So do what you can to
accept where you are and what is. But then, find something in that
circumstance to feel better.
- Sometimes people get stuck trying to find the bad thing during
the bad thing. Just let it be. What it’s meant to teach you will
become more apparent once you’ve accepted it and the ordeal is
To connect and learn more about Joanna, follow her on
YouTube, Instagram, and
You can also tune in to her own podcast,
About Life, and check out her book,
The Waiting Room.
Do you have stories to tell? Connect with Linda to share them.
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